There is something I’ve been thinking for a while, but have been reluctant to write down, but now it needs to be said: the launch of Your Party has been a complete and utter shambles.
They should have concentrated on setting up branches, making sure only democratic socialist are members and not people from Trotskyists political parties these organisations are not compatible with horizontal democratic organisation, voted on a ten point political program not thrown a lot of bullshit paperwork at us, put the principle that any elected officials get same pay as average worker (and watch the greedy run) then branches can vote on name, the branches can send delegates to regional conferences who can then send 2 recallable members to a national committee fuck being run by a leader run it by committee democratically
“A party that does not want to give itself a name, and does not want to open itself up to members, and did not even want to announce its existence, and dithers on making the slightest step forward, is not a serious party. “ for the first time ever, within one of your articles, I find a ? non serious and non factual paragraph 😢 Disappointing.
Never said that because the US started with the idea that ordinary people could govern themselves that we haven't fallen into a funk or that we can do anything better now. What I *am* saying is that we need to take our government back under our control, and we won't be able to do that without a fight.
The entrenched powerful never give up without a fight.
Youre not saying anything that we aren’t all thinking Ricky… it’s so sad that something with so much potential is being destroyed from within before it has even begun!
"Your Party was supposed to be different, it was supposed to be your party, but all the signs are that it is their party. "
And this selfish squabbling on the part of all the MP involved just proves that they're all still Labour members in disguise, trying to appear cool and lefty in order to get the youth vote. Time for Corbyn et. al. to shape up or ship out and stop wasting our good will.
It grieves me enormously to say it, but I think Corbyn is done now and needs to stop. None of the people involved in this debacle can look like credible leaders of a movement now. The factional infighting in public, with no concern for appearances - I mean for Christ’s sake now, at this point in history, with the stakes as high as they are, can you not keep your shit together for ten minutes? If feuding is more important to you than even launching the party cleanly then your priorities are all wrong.
Six months ago it was theirs for the taking. They stuffed up their launch and the greens have capitalised. Whatever comes forward as the opponent to Labour always needed to unify range of factions including the greens. “Your party” has shown it can’t even unify itself, let alone work with the greens, PC, SNP etc. They need to back out now - they’ve shat themselves in public, best thing they can do now is fuck off and avoid humiliating the whole left end of politics.
I don’t know whether I trust the greens, but Polanski has done nothing wrong, and it’s definitely his game from this point. “Your party” missed its chance to be my party.
I reckon the ‘wedge issue’ was actually deployed - not by Labour though, by the political establishment and ruling elites. That Politico article is a case in point - an example of the establishment media stirring the pot & not a single quote was sought from Sultana, they merely used her prior public statements, yet there was plenty from the “Corbyn insiders” faction who are in my opinion destroying the chance of success on purpose. Just like they did as Corbyn’s advisors when he was LOTO : Carrie Murphy, but Schneider in particular is a destructive presence, with his own agenda of a top-down, milquetoast social democratic party which the public will baulk at as ‘more of the same’. Tinkering around the edges of capitalism is not good enough and staunch anti-zionism AND anti-Israeli Apartheid Occupation including demanding the dismantling of the illegal settlements is an absolute must. Corbyn, going by his awful capitulation to Samantha Simmons on R5 the other day, has not learned and still is not willing to use this moment, the PERFECT moment after what we’ve seen on our screens this past two years, to push back against weaponisation of antisemitism. Schneider is very much responsible for advising Corbyn on this matter and the piss-poor strategy he still employed.
We all know that, for various reasons, the party launch has been sub par. However, there is a huge hunger for a new way and thousands of people have turned up to local and regional meetings. There is no point in giving up hope at this point. The 500,000 sign-ups (I think mainly due to the Corbyn effect) indicate the potential size of the new party once the name and the policies are firmed up.
Why don’t you offer your help and support rather than snipe from the sidelines?🤓
They should have concentrated on setting up branches, making sure only democratic socialist are members and not people from Trotskyists political parties these organisations are not compatible with horizontal democratic organisation, voted on a ten point political program not thrown a lot of bullshit paperwork at us, put the principle that any elected officials get same pay as average worker (and watch the greedy run) then branches can vote on name, the branches can send delegates to regional conferences who can then send 2 recallable members to a national committee fuck being run by a leader run it by committee democratically
Why don’t they combine with the Green Party? That young candidate seems to have everything they lack—including clarity and energy.
I think the greens might reject the partnership with this basket case party.
“A party that does not want to give itself a name, and does not want to open itself up to members, and did not even want to announce its existence, and dithers on making the slightest step forward, is not a serious party. “ for the first time ever, within one of your articles, I find a ? non serious and non factual paragraph 😢 Disappointing.
The United States will not do better. Sadly
Never said that because the US started with the idea that ordinary people could govern themselves that we haven't fallen into a funk or that we can do anything better now. What I *am* saying is that we need to take our government back under our control, and we won't be able to do that without a fight.
The entrenched powerful never give up without a fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4
The People's Front of Judea etc
Youre not saying anything that we aren’t all thinking Ricky… it’s so sad that something with so much potential is being destroyed from within before it has even begun!
Ricky : I am glad you've jumped in .... and done a good piece. Here is a piece I did in THE LEFT LANE two weeks ago. https://theleftlane2024.substack.com/p/a-socialist-party-needs-to-be-run
Your Party is a waste of time. Corbyn has shown that he couldn't run a bath. Vote Green.
"Your Party was supposed to be different, it was supposed to be your party, but all the signs are that it is their party. "
And this selfish squabbling on the part of all the MP involved just proves that they're all still Labour members in disguise, trying to appear cool and lefty in order to get the youth vote. Time for Corbyn et. al. to shape up or ship out and stop wasting our good will.
This Mobley person has nothing good to say about anything or anyone. Every comment is unpleasant.
It’s extremely disappointing but the lack of a party platform encouraged anyone who didn’t support Labor to enter Your Party.
You can’t just open it up to all opinions because, even though it seems like the ideal way to go, it will only foster chaos.
If you don’t stand for something you’ll fall for anything.
It grieves me enormously to say it, but I think Corbyn is done now and needs to stop. None of the people involved in this debacle can look like credible leaders of a movement now. The factional infighting in public, with no concern for appearances - I mean for Christ’s sake now, at this point in history, with the stakes as high as they are, can you not keep your shit together for ten minutes? If feuding is more important to you than even launching the party cleanly then your priorities are all wrong.
Six months ago it was theirs for the taking. They stuffed up their launch and the greens have capitalised. Whatever comes forward as the opponent to Labour always needed to unify range of factions including the greens. “Your party” has shown it can’t even unify itself, let alone work with the greens, PC, SNP etc. They need to back out now - they’ve shat themselves in public, best thing they can do now is fuck off and avoid humiliating the whole left end of politics.
I don’t know whether I trust the greens, but Polanski has done nothing wrong, and it’s definitely his game from this point. “Your party” missed its chance to be my party.
The problem with political parties is they contain politicians.
I reckon the ‘wedge issue’ was actually deployed - not by Labour though, by the political establishment and ruling elites. That Politico article is a case in point - an example of the establishment media stirring the pot & not a single quote was sought from Sultana, they merely used her prior public statements, yet there was plenty from the “Corbyn insiders” faction who are in my opinion destroying the chance of success on purpose. Just like they did as Corbyn’s advisors when he was LOTO : Carrie Murphy, but Schneider in particular is a destructive presence, with his own agenda of a top-down, milquetoast social democratic party which the public will baulk at as ‘more of the same’. Tinkering around the edges of capitalism is not good enough and staunch anti-zionism AND anti-Israeli Apartheid Occupation including demanding the dismantling of the illegal settlements is an absolute must. Corbyn, going by his awful capitulation to Samantha Simmons on R5 the other day, has not learned and still is not willing to use this moment, the PERFECT moment after what we’ve seen on our screens this past two years, to push back against weaponisation of antisemitism. Schneider is very much responsible for advising Corbyn on this matter and the piss-poor strategy he still employed.
We all know that, for various reasons, the party launch has been sub par. However, there is a huge hunger for a new way and thousands of people have turned up to local and regional meetings. There is no point in giving up hope at this point. The 500,000 sign-ups (I think mainly due to the Corbyn effect) indicate the potential size of the new party once the name and the policies are firmed up.