The Digital ID is essentially Jab #2 and when the time comes the people will not abide. The Digital ID, in fact, will be a lynchpin for revolt and one more step toward the demise of the plutocracy. In a way, one feels compelled to say, “Bring it on.”
Another point to make here is that there is an optional ID card system already in place in the UK - CitizenCard. You'd be forgiven for not knowing that. Takeup has been essentially non-existent.
Capitalism, Economics and empire has crashed in the uk. And we alienated ourselves through Brexit. They are also after our own people to unalive themselves to be free of it. Older people with disabilities aren’t going to get hired. Half the jobs are dodgy scams from what I’ve been reading. I’m having to go on UC and as an autistic person with various other health issues. I don’t stand a chance.
I think this petition had 3 million signatures on. Maybe the public are now listening to activists. I’ve been raising awareness of this and the silencing of disabled charities and disabled are going to face. It’s a kleptocratic technocratic capitalist authority we have in power. Protect the rich and punish the vulnerable poor and hide their crimes. Funding Israeli genociders or what would happen if those 3 million got together and fought back.
Digital ID is the line in the sand. Cross that threashold and society will be historian. That is inevitable. This resistance could not be more important.
"Anyone who supports digital ID after hearing the arguments is either authoritarian or gullible."
Exactly. They don't want to 'chip' us for our convenience. They want to chip us so they can keep tabs on us and spy on us constantly. Don't fall for this Orwellian exercise of control sponsored by the ruling classes!
In Belgium, we have digital IDs. We are supposed to carry them with us whenever we go out. We must show them to those authorised to see them but we should never relinquish possession of them. Of course, we will give them to a policeman to put into a card reader, but technically we should insert it ourselves. I can't tell you how good it feels to have a police force that we don't entirely distrust. Not entirely.
The thing is, we don't think twice about them. Maybe if we found out that their implementation was Orwellian in inspiration or that a multinational data-grabber plans to use us in some nefarious way, we'd be more against them. But it's not very clear what we would replace them with: we've had IDs since the First World War. No one would seriously want to "get rid of" IDs, but that's not the question. When they were introduced in Belgium, they were regarded as a necessary means of reorganising a war-torn country whereas the reason they're proposed for the UK would seem to be to prepare for going to war. With the enemy within, isn't that what we're called nowadays - the general public?
Thanks for sharing this Mr. Hale. Glad to know people are rightfully concerned about this digital ID thing, and are pushing back. It sounds like it would bring us very close to the mass surveillance/Big Brother Mr. Orwell warned us about in 1984. Would never want to see that implemented ever
I am so relieved that the UK is coming to it's senses, or have they had enough and are finally putting on their long pants and standing up for a noble cause, the most noble cause of sovereignty and getting ready to take their country back in the name of their Divine Mother and ALL the PEOPLE she represented. I send them LOVE and a "FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT" from the USA.
Most people read or watch dystopian fiction and think those fictional worlds or scenarios are terrifyingly awful, but somehow the people with most power in our world are the ones who think, "Hmm...that sounds like a great idea!"
cf.:
Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus
It's absolutely bonkers. But it must be acknowledged, the people staffing these tech companies, especially those who were early contributors, before the gold rush and popularization of "learning to code", were social misfits, often full of resentment, very often convinced of their oen genius even as they weren't really smarter and sometimes quite a lot less intelligent, as they struggle with predicting and prioritizing downstream consequences. They were just more interested in nonhuman things, to a fault, and spent obsessive amounts of time with the stuff. They were and are not well balanced people.
They read these books and think these dystopian scenarios are exciting and funny. They smirk and snicker at the idea they could be a dark lord. Oh and they likely practice this sort of thinking too, in dungeons and dragons.
They are not connected to human consequences and don't have empathy for others' suffering, especially when those others might have been popular, or a pretty girl who didn't want to sit at their side admiring their DIY tower buildout with extra cooling fans (or even have lunch with them). Lunchtime conversations might well be full of nastiness about implementing this sort of thing, and the well balanced others are seen as irrelevant bits and pieces in a world where only they and similarly powerful systems admin types are suddenly powerful.
And btw: no amount of rules against bullying could have fixed this, because they start out inappropriately arrogant and contemptuous about being able to, eg, remember multiplication tables up to 4 digits squared. Fixing these personality disorders is, like all PDs, not bystanders' responsibility.
How do I know all this? I just do. No self-doxxing here but I've seen it and traced it from junior high to the workplace.
The Digital ID is essentially Jab #2 and when the time comes the people will not abide. The Digital ID, in fact, will be a lynchpin for revolt and one more step toward the demise of the plutocracy. In a way, one feels compelled to say, “Bring it on.”
I don’t understand why “Luke the Nuke” just doesn’t go and live in his beloved Israel.
Starmer needs to realise that by keep having to backtrack on ‘policy’ it makes him look weak and inept.
I got a reply on the 2 million+ petition from Gov.UK
It just simply stated that the government were rolling out the ID cards. Cunts! S'cuse my French "~D
Another point to make here is that there is an optional ID card system already in place in the UK - CitizenCard. You'd be forgiven for not knowing that. Takeup has been essentially non-existent.
‘2073’ a docufilm presenting where all this ends up. Terrifyingly informative. Features @Carole Cadwalladr.
Capitalism, Economics and empire has crashed in the uk. And we alienated ourselves through Brexit. They are also after our own people to unalive themselves to be free of it. Older people with disabilities aren’t going to get hired. Half the jobs are dodgy scams from what I’ve been reading. I’m having to go on UC and as an autistic person with various other health issues. I don’t stand a chance.
I think this petition had 3 million signatures on. Maybe the public are now listening to activists. I’ve been raising awareness of this and the silencing of disabled charities and disabled are going to face. It’s a kleptocratic technocratic capitalist authority we have in power. Protect the rich and punish the vulnerable poor and hide their crimes. Funding Israeli genociders or what would happen if those 3 million got together and fought back.
Digital ID is the line in the sand. Cross that threashold and society will be historian. That is inevitable. This resistance could not be more important.
Very interesting read
"Anyone who supports digital ID after hearing the arguments is either authoritarian or gullible."
Exactly. They don't want to 'chip' us for our convenience. They want to chip us so they can keep tabs on us and spy on us constantly. Don't fall for this Orwellian exercise of control sponsored by the ruling classes!
In Belgium, we have digital IDs. We are supposed to carry them with us whenever we go out. We must show them to those authorised to see them but we should never relinquish possession of them. Of course, we will give them to a policeman to put into a card reader, but technically we should insert it ourselves. I can't tell you how good it feels to have a police force that we don't entirely distrust. Not entirely.
The thing is, we don't think twice about them. Maybe if we found out that their implementation was Orwellian in inspiration or that a multinational data-grabber plans to use us in some nefarious way, we'd be more against them. But it's not very clear what we would replace them with: we've had IDs since the First World War. No one would seriously want to "get rid of" IDs, but that's not the question. When they were introduced in Belgium, they were regarded as a necessary means of reorganising a war-torn country whereas the reason they're proposed for the UK would seem to be to prepare for going to war. With the enemy within, isn't that what we're called nowadays - the general public?
Thanks for sharing this Mr. Hale. Glad to know people are rightfully concerned about this digital ID thing, and are pushing back. It sounds like it would bring us very close to the mass surveillance/Big Brother Mr. Orwell warned us about in 1984. Would never want to see that implemented ever
I am so relieved that the UK is coming to it's senses, or have they had enough and are finally putting on their long pants and standing up for a noble cause, the most noble cause of sovereignty and getting ready to take their country back in the name of their Divine Mother and ALL the PEOPLE she represented. I send them LOVE and a "FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT" from the USA.
Oh the cheek of Owen Jones, to go to a political party conference to argue with the MPs.
Most people read or watch dystopian fiction and think those fictional worlds or scenarios are terrifyingly awful, but somehow the people with most power in our world are the ones who think, "Hmm...that sounds like a great idea!"
cf.:
Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus
It's absolutely bonkers. But it must be acknowledged, the people staffing these tech companies, especially those who were early contributors, before the gold rush and popularization of "learning to code", were social misfits, often full of resentment, very often convinced of their oen genius even as they weren't really smarter and sometimes quite a lot less intelligent, as they struggle with predicting and prioritizing downstream consequences. They were just more interested in nonhuman things, to a fault, and spent obsessive amounts of time with the stuff. They were and are not well balanced people.
They read these books and think these dystopian scenarios are exciting and funny. They smirk and snicker at the idea they could be a dark lord. Oh and they likely practice this sort of thinking too, in dungeons and dragons.
They are not connected to human consequences and don't have empathy for others' suffering, especially when those others might have been popular, or a pretty girl who didn't want to sit at their side admiring their DIY tower buildout with extra cooling fans (or even have lunch with them). Lunchtime conversations might well be full of nastiness about implementing this sort of thing, and the well balanced others are seen as irrelevant bits and pieces in a world where only they and similarly powerful systems admin types are suddenly powerful.
And btw: no amount of rules against bullying could have fixed this, because they start out inappropriately arrogant and contemptuous about being able to, eg, remember multiplication tables up to 4 digits squared. Fixing these personality disorders is, like all PDs, not bystanders' responsibility.
How do I know all this? I just do. No self-doxxing here but I've seen it and traced it from junior high to the workplace.