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Katy Goddard's avatar

Goose and gander situation.

Katy Goddard's avatar

Exceptionally well put. Is anyone out there listening !!!!!

Question Everything's avatar

The error that you are making, of course, 1. You are not following the ruling class Establishment Narrative. 2.It’s OK when WE do it, and 3.Don’t question your betters, who, by nature, are morally and ethically superior to all you peasants.

Edijal Lowley's avatar

You can write this article everyday and every night and when election comes, all that will matter to the English electorate is the consistency of how many dinghies landed in Dover. Extortionate train fares, taxes, rip-off Britain, surveillance, unaccountable services and politicians will not matter a jot : just dinghies!!

juliet solomon's avatar

The bus pass is the gift of local authorities, not Central Government. So he can only reduce local government grants - which is already happening - to try to stop them. I think removal of the bus pass would be a crime too far, and the mayors would be likely to have a real go at him. Unite has a lot of pensioners in it, (like me) (and is led by a fighter). They could well call out a strike on this. And of course the death rate would go up, as those of us who can afford an old banger would start driving it around more often than we should. And then all those routes which depend on concessionary passes would start to diminish........I could go on, but not much point as Starmtrooper and Theeves seem to believe they are right, whatever the evidence. But I do like the idea of traffic being held up by a large crowd in wheelchairs - which I think was suggested in a Margaret Attwood novel?

Mr . Ma's avatar

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Margaret Altink's avatar

I never ever trusted Labour as my feeling was they came from poor backgrounds and when in power just used the opportunity to improve their finances. The Tories, I thought came from well off backgrounds and could be trusted to do the correct thing! Gee, how wrong could I be, they are all corrupt and Britain is in a mess because of this corruption. Priority surely has to be the SEWAGE and the NHS.

Shaggy Snodgrass's avatar

It sounds like Starmer is positioning himself to be a "lightning rod" for left anger; since he's basically untouchable as PM for at least a year or two, + is courting support from major centrist (+ even right-wing?) media outlets.

You can rip on him over the "freebies"; but if he escapes true accountability for them, which he well might, he becomes that much harder to assail.

Baron Alli, on the other hand, may be a peer; but giving him a good rake or three over hot coals might definitely cause injury to Starmer and his minions, as they will be forced to defend Alli's depredations (which are no doubt plentiful and sundry) on the record as they become more exposed and more controversial. He will have to at least wind his neck back in, if not his wallet; and that is where Starmer et al. can be hurt most and best.

Remember, politicians take flak as part of the job description; their benefactors do not.

Wallets like Baron Alli are often sensitive to exposure and attack in surprising ways.

Gogs's avatar

They're disgusting and worse than the Tories. I've been reading in the Intercept how in opposition Lammy gave hope to a British citizen repeatedly jailed by the Egyptian government but has turned his back on him in government. But it will be "fun" to watch the robotic PM set all-time low polling records as winter begins to bite. The winter fuel thing is so politically inept that one suspects there's something more sinister to it - I sincerely hope not.

Raveen's avatar

'...but try explaining we shouldn’t vote for corruption, just like we shouldn’t vote for genocide, and they stare at you like you’ve lost your mind.'

This type of partisan politics makes people irrational and in denial of their party's wrongdoing and crimes.

Such blind support is what essentially allows these corrupt, evil leaders to continue their destructive agendas. We must stop this type of blind support!

Amos's avatar

I always want to say: “So what’s the endgame? If we go along with all this pragmatism what do you think is going to happen? Do you think appeasement works?”

A lot of them are basing their decisions on a desire to return to the womb, a nice happy safe past where people were decent because we didn’t know about their crimes. It’s escapism. The sheer, relentless shitness of reality has forced people to disengage from it and just believe that everything will magically return to being OK at some point in the future if just they carry on voting for the people their dad told them to trust when they were kids.

Up to a point I can forgive it but it’s cowardice, and the more people have to actively turn aside their gaze, the more actively complicit they become.

Amos's avatar

This is what I can’t understand. I have British friends telling me how important it is to vote for Kamala because project 2025 etc. Even after four months of Starmer in office. Fucking delusional and pathetic.

Raveen's avatar

They’re seemingly stuck in partisan politics and are basing their opinions on emotion, rather than critical thinking and rationality.

Sadly, this is how the system and mainstream media have conditioned the population to think.

The Revolution Continues's avatar

Being hounded and slandered and libeled by the bought-off neoliberals is a badge of honor for an honest politician. Corbyn will be vindicated fully some day.

Norma Parfitt's avatar

Am I really expected to endure another 4 years and 9 months worth of this government?

At least with the Tories I never had any expectations

stephanieb's avatar

The percentage of people who care continues to diminish, just provide useless drama to fill lazy thoughtless lives…

Karen's avatar

“”Starmer is in power only because he had the media on his side”” I beg to differ, to vote the tories out people had to vote for labour, basically holding their noses. The man always looks as if he’s caught in the headlights and some damaging secret will soon be out. He gives me the creeps.

SerenityFern's avatar

I wonder if the damaging secret has something to do with his relationship with Lord Alli?

juliet solomon's avatar

Exactly. They didn't win; their vote share was very low. The Tories lost - and Starmer still believes it had something to do with him.

Lisa's avatar

It's certainly true that people were ready to vote out the Tories, no matter what, but if the media weren't on his side, back when he was backstabbing Corbyn, Starmer & McSweeney could never have hijacked the Labour Party leadership.

It took a thoroughly corrupt, overtly biased, wilfully complicit media to take part in that prolonged, malicious, bad-faith hit-job on Corbyn.

Totally agree about Starmer. He gives me the creeps, too! There's no conscience, and no soul, behind that hollow stare!

Margaret Altink's avatar

A friend of mine worked for him for a few years.........her opinion.......he's not a very nice man!

Nicholas Pretzel's avatar

I agree, although he did suck up to Murdoch which is extremely worrying. And the latest his two hour lunch with Trump (WTF? He's giving this abomination credibility? What on earth was he hoping to achieve?). This wasn't a vote for Labour (they only got 32% of the vote, one of the smallest minorities of recent years, especially for such a large majority). Blame our skewed and undemocratic FPTP system. I voted Green but I'm in one of the safest Labour seats in the country (Hackney South & Shoreditch).

Badbard Poetry's avatar

And the avaricious sycophants that jostle for his attention are equally tone deaf, spiteful and clueless.

Karl Vort Poetry's avatar

He’s been found out but most of us who are awake have always known what a complete c**t Starmer is.

He’s going to bring in conscription next year and the “only” reason it’s going to be a grim budget he’s raising money for the war machine.