My dream is that the war criminals and their enablers are sent to Gaza to work as clean up crews, hard manual labor, clearing up the rubble piles they facilitated. No more cushy sinecures, a 100% direct encounter with material and human reality. It's more mercy than any of them have shown.
Exactly. Eisenhower made the German civilians living in the vicinity of the death camps take care of the living and bury the dead. It forced home exactly what they'd been complicit in for a decade.
Also the cleanup crews in Haifa area where the missiles from Gaza were targeted. See the news reports carried on international news wires from pre-2023 (some in 2024). Gaza ceased to be the source of such R160 (160 is the kilometer Kill Range of the missiles) missiles fired from Gaza within a year or so from the regular evacuation of Haifa and Israeli cities into bomb shelters on daily basis.
This new "bomb shelter (underground) life style" won some respite after IDF began bombing the launchers in Gaza and deployed from as far as Yemen on Sea of Reeds shores by Houthis and until they were decimated by IDF, with the Lebnani Hezbollah from the north using missiles shipped overland or by sea to Levantine factions from Iran:
Frequently such news wire reports of damaged Israeli sites are suppressed or are not cleared by IDF Security by reporters for Israeli and Foreign print and broadcast news reporters due to a blackout policy in the name of National Security. So as not to reveal Israeli vulnerabilities or Air Defense system failures (both Israel and the US deploy Global Arms Systems and product marketed by their private and national weapons industries, for all that "End User" certification deters often mobile launched missiles and rocketry from land and sea).
Here is an example of English language Israeli broadcast news and press reporting not meant for international sourcing:
"...Israel has been coping with Hamas attacks from Gaza, Hezbollah attacks from Lebanon, Houthi attacks from Yemen, as well as attacks by Iran. Israeli security forces are also fighting terrorists in Judea and Samaria, as well as other areas inside Israel. The IDF has also taken up positions inside Syria to counter developing threats...."
"...Over 10,000 rockets have been fired at Israel from Gaza since Oct. 7. Hezbollah began firing rockets at Israel at the same time. In April 2024, Iran sent around 170 drones, over 30 cruise missiles, and more than 120 ballistic missiles at Israel. Again, in October 2024, Iran fired about 200 ballistic missiles at Israel...."
We need a Red/Green alliance - plus others. A broad limited number of aims should be embraced and we MUST stop the name calling of those who are allies but we don't agree with 100%. The Tories are the enemy - and most New Labour have embraced the Tories.
We need to be absolutely clear-sighted and unapologetic in explaining what Reform politicians stand for and their personal abuses, crimes and exploitations, while not insulting their voters (basically the opposite of what the Clinton campaign did).
I agree with much you wrote, but here are a few points you might want to consider.
It's not unusual historically for the disadvantaged to be socially conservative but economically more in favor of policies that would see their lives improve. Such policies may partially align with 'socialism'.
There's a reason why Hitler's party was officially named the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
The poll on reasons for people leaving Labour has allowed the respondents to select as many options as they want, as they add up to more than 100%. And the options aren't ranked.
It's therefore not possible to conclude definitively that "four fifths left because....". All you can say is that 20% of the former labour voters questioned gave immigration being too high as one of their reasons for moving away from Labour. Some of the respondents may oppose welfare cuts as well as opposing the perceived high level of immigration.
As we know, the first past the post system does not proportionally or fairly represent people's votes.
Any new social democratic party that is focused largely on electoral politics will be a disappointment. There have been very few exceptions in British history.
One that relies on an aging, though principled, politician with questionable leadership skills to attract support may have an issue.
It could be the time, we need the energy of the youth and all those who still have a strong sense of justice and empathy for others to rise up and really for once, make a difference.
I cannot believe it’s taken the Working Class voters down South 23 Years to figure out Blair was a Thatcherite he learned from a master of illusion N. Kinnock, Brown was the Chancellor of the Exchequer who destroyed our Pensions and PM when Darling Bailed the Banks out with our Money. And we never got a quarter of it back plus it just made the Big Money boys think they are better than us and invincible and if they fucked up the Government of this timeline would bail them out again with OUR MONEY. Then you chose Cameron Clegg and Osborne the LIARS who gave us Austerity Fooled you FOOLS by blaming the POOR and people on Benefits this vicious word used by the Blair Government because it does what they intended it to. Sound as if unemployed and disabled people were getting our tax money for nothing so much more vindictive and damning than Social Security eh! I will not go through the rest of the useless blame the benefit fraudsters getting £96 a week when MP’ spend more than this on their lunch per day on your TAX MONEY I know who the Fraudsters are and it is not the Unemployed or Disabled it’s the Corrupt Lying Bastards in Westminster and the House of Lords. Why do you not stop acting like you are something you are NOT and begin living the life of what you are Working Class because you have a Mortgage for Houses you cannot afford does not make you Middle Class nor does having an overpriced Car and Membership to the local Golf Club. Now the bottom Line for the majority of you Southerners over the Border You had the chance to get rid of the Rancid Rotten Corrupt Government in 2019 and you did not then in 2024 what did you do You elected another even more Rancid Rotten Corrupt Lying Government STARMER. Your last chance to Vote for an Honest Decent Leader a Man of the People and for the People and His right hand A Lady and a branch from the same Tree I speak of the Right Honourable Jeremy Corbyn and the Right Honourable Zarah Sultana these two Politicians have more Grace Integrity Honesty and Empathy with YOU LOT the working class in their Pinkie’s than the Whole Rotten Corrupt Government and Opposition in their Commons and that lot of Pirates and Highwaymen and Women in their Commons Den of Iniquity they have the nerve to call the House of Lords. I will Reiterate You English Voters come the Next Election have the Chance to Save Britain because it is your overwhelming majority in Population which Decides the Future Government of Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland it matters not one JOT how we Vote we always “GET THE GOVERNMENT YOU VOTE FOR” and if anyone thinks this is a fair Election System for Countries outside England then you should be ASHAMED.
Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana For Next Government.
You might have more than 1 reader up-voting your useful info if you took to editing and using byte-sized paragraph breaks as are the trained press and broadcast audience building (rather than scaring away) practices for purpose of building interest and news market share especially among those "consumers" who tend to disconnect themselves from "market forces." If ya don't want readers, sorry to have bothered pointing this out.
The writing is first-rate and it seems a shame to see it not reaching those looking for news alternatives to the corporate-captured fare.
Here on western side of the Atlantic pond non-profit news services are now taking significant audience and market share from the corporate-captured online sites and smartphone news feeds after a decade or so of Show Biz market boosting of mainstream media broadcast, cable & press presentation. Corporate underwritten US PUBLIC BROADCASTING is barely a substantive improvement over the Show Biz reductionism of the news that matters most especially to those without an investment portfolio to protect!
This disclosure helps differentiate non-profit from corporate-captured news sourcing:
"2025 · Democracy Now! is a 501 (c)3 non-profit news organization. We do not accept funding from advertising, underwriting or government agencies."
The article - like most TV/mainstream-doped voters' geopolitical consciences - is predictably devoid of any thoughts of US-NATO-Israel's perpetual global bloodbaths, warmongering and genocidal slaughter - as in :
"It doesn't affect ME-ME-ME, my Mini-Me's aka kids or My Own Back Yard, right? Am I right or wot ? So it won't really affect who I vote for. Stands to bloody reason, don't it ?"
The tone is "finger on the pulse". The "we": is that you and me, Ricky, you and the rest of you ... not HM The King? But one thing comes over clear: you, and we with you, are very excited about what we're hearing and, when a new political party gets launched, there is more than enough for helping-hands to do.
But, as you say, anything that chimes with what sounds normal to a neoliberal, and therefore anyone else bar Green, is virtual dead in the water. Green and its leader must decide whether the nation's future lies in its name, its policies or its leader. There could be some valid must-do's left in the other traditional parties, such as "always use a coaster for iced gin and tonic", so do keep your eyes peeled.
In the graphic ("Why have people switched?"), do you happen to know: could people select various answers, or just one? They didn't ask me, but if it was just one, I'd still be swithering yet. Between them all.
I usually really enjoy your posts. But this time its made me really sad. This new party will simply destroy the Greens and split the actual left vote. Anyone who still votes for or supports the Labour party is NOT left wing or even centrist. This new party will simply enable Reform more. They should have joined the Greens and together they would have been able to make a difference but unfortunately they are so caught up in Westminster politics, their arrogance and that toxic Westminser bubble that they think this is going to work, but, just as it failed when Jeremy Corbyn was made leader of the Labour Party, it will fail now. The MSM , BBC etc will NEVER allow them to become anything. But if they had joined with the greens, an established party with good policies and brave young new leaders, that would have been different. It really is hopeless now.
this is a fledgling party, barely two weeks old, doesn't even have a name yet. these numbers are outstanding ! it will become the biggest party and people won't be frightened by what the bbc, crap newspapers, and other parties throw at it. we've learned a lot as a nation since jeremy corbyn's labour was sabataged from the inside. this time the good guys will be running the show. hope for the future at last !
Does this party even exist? What is its name, what is its political programme, where is its website, does it have a headquarters, who are its leaders? It seems that this is placing the cart before the horse.
You seem to be promoting a political party that is not (yet) real. Given Mr Corbyn's foot-dragging for years in the vain hope that he would be allowed back into his beloved Labour party, it seems odd to place any hope in him.
I trust Jeremy Corbyn, I agree with his policies, and I absolutely support his new party.
Furthermore, attempting to save the Labour Party from becoming the horror-show it has now become —in order to save the country from this corrupt, authoritarian, far-right incarnation of "Labour" — was an entirely noble effort.
Starmer should retire, immediately. Maybe he could emigrate to Gaza and directly experience the results of his polices
My dream is that the war criminals and their enablers are sent to Gaza to work as clean up crews, hard manual labor, clearing up the rubble piles they facilitated. No more cushy sinecures, a 100% direct encounter with material and human reality. It's more mercy than any of them have shown.
Exactly. Eisenhower made the German civilians living in the vicinity of the death camps take care of the living and bury the dead. It forced home exactly what they'd been complicit in for a decade.
Also the cleanup crews in Haifa area where the missiles from Gaza were targeted. See the news reports carried on international news wires from pre-2023 (some in 2024). Gaza ceased to be the source of such R160 (160 is the kilometer Kill Range of the missiles) missiles fired from Gaza within a year or so from the regular evacuation of Haifa and Israeli cities into bomb shelters on daily basis.
This new "bomb shelter (underground) life style" won some respite after IDF began bombing the launchers in Gaza and deployed from as far as Yemen on Sea of Reeds shores by Houthis and until they were decimated by IDF, with the Lebnani Hezbollah from the north using missiles shipped overland or by sea to Levantine factions from Iran:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/idf-says-long-range-rocket-fired-from-gaza-toward-haifa-area-no-injuries/
https://www.israelhayom.com/2024/06/10/sirens-blare-in-acre-blasts-heard-in-haifa-as-hezbollah-targets-north/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/houthi-missile-triggers-sirens-in-haifa-and-across-north-is-intercepted/
Frequently such news wire reports of damaged Israeli sites are suppressed or are not cleared by IDF Security by reporters for Israeli and Foreign print and broadcast news reporters due to a blackout policy in the name of National Security. So as not to reveal Israeli vulnerabilities or Air Defense system failures (both Israel and the US deploy Global Arms Systems and product marketed by their private and national weapons industries, for all that "End User" certification deters often mobile launched missiles and rocketry from land and sea).
Here is an example of English language Israeli broadcast news and press reporting not meant for international sourcing:
https://israel365news.com/400472/500-days-of-war-by-the-numbers/
"...Israel has been coping with Hamas attacks from Gaza, Hezbollah attacks from Lebanon, Houthi attacks from Yemen, as well as attacks by Iran. Israeli security forces are also fighting terrorists in Judea and Samaria, as well as other areas inside Israel. The IDF has also taken up positions inside Syria to counter developing threats...."
"...Over 10,000 rockets have been fired at Israel from Gaza since Oct. 7. Hezbollah began firing rockets at Israel at the same time. In April 2024, Iran sent around 170 drones, over 30 cruise missiles, and more than 120 ballistic missiles at Israel. Again, in October 2024, Iran fired about 200 ballistic missiles at Israel...."
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Have him sent to live in a waiting room in an NHS hospital which is falling apart.
Yes!
We need a Red/Green alliance - plus others. A broad limited number of aims should be embraced and we MUST stop the name calling of those who are allies but we don't agree with 100%. The Tories are the enemy - and most New Labour have embraced the Tories.
We need to be absolutely clear-sighted and unapologetic in explaining what Reform politicians stand for and their personal abuses, crimes and exploitations, while not insulting their voters (basically the opposite of what the Clinton campaign did).
They could just call it Not The £abour Party.
I agree with much you wrote, but here are a few points you might want to consider.
It's not unusual historically for the disadvantaged to be socially conservative but economically more in favor of policies that would see their lives improve. Such policies may partially align with 'socialism'.
There's a reason why Hitler's party was officially named the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
The poll on reasons for people leaving Labour has allowed the respondents to select as many options as they want, as they add up to more than 100%. And the options aren't ranked.
It's therefore not possible to conclude definitively that "four fifths left because....". All you can say is that 20% of the former labour voters questioned gave immigration being too high as one of their reasons for moving away from Labour. Some of the respondents may oppose welfare cuts as well as opposing the perceived high level of immigration.
As we know, the first past the post system does not proportionally or fairly represent people's votes.
Any new social democratic party that is focused largely on electoral politics will be a disappointment. There have been very few exceptions in British history.
One that relies on an aging, though principled, politician with questionable leadership skills to attract support may have an issue.
And I meant to mention that you have only considered the situation in England not in the devolved countries.
It could be the time, we need the energy of the youth and all those who still have a strong sense of justice and empathy for others to rise up and really for once, make a difference.
I cannot believe it’s taken the Working Class voters down South 23 Years to figure out Blair was a Thatcherite he learned from a master of illusion N. Kinnock, Brown was the Chancellor of the Exchequer who destroyed our Pensions and PM when Darling Bailed the Banks out with our Money. And we never got a quarter of it back plus it just made the Big Money boys think they are better than us and invincible and if they fucked up the Government of this timeline would bail them out again with OUR MONEY. Then you chose Cameron Clegg and Osborne the LIARS who gave us Austerity Fooled you FOOLS by blaming the POOR and people on Benefits this vicious word used by the Blair Government because it does what they intended it to. Sound as if unemployed and disabled people were getting our tax money for nothing so much more vindictive and damning than Social Security eh! I will not go through the rest of the useless blame the benefit fraudsters getting £96 a week when MP’ spend more than this on their lunch per day on your TAX MONEY I know who the Fraudsters are and it is not the Unemployed or Disabled it’s the Corrupt Lying Bastards in Westminster and the House of Lords. Why do you not stop acting like you are something you are NOT and begin living the life of what you are Working Class because you have a Mortgage for Houses you cannot afford does not make you Middle Class nor does having an overpriced Car and Membership to the local Golf Club. Now the bottom Line for the majority of you Southerners over the Border You had the chance to get rid of the Rancid Rotten Corrupt Government in 2019 and you did not then in 2024 what did you do You elected another even more Rancid Rotten Corrupt Lying Government STARMER. Your last chance to Vote for an Honest Decent Leader a Man of the People and for the People and His right hand A Lady and a branch from the same Tree I speak of the Right Honourable Jeremy Corbyn and the Right Honourable Zarah Sultana these two Politicians have more Grace Integrity Honesty and Empathy with YOU LOT the working class in their Pinkie’s than the Whole Rotten Corrupt Government and Opposition in their Commons and that lot of Pirates and Highwaymen and Women in their Commons Den of Iniquity they have the nerve to call the House of Lords. I will Reiterate You English Voters come the Next Election have the Chance to Save Britain because it is your overwhelming majority in Population which Decides the Future Government of Scotland Wales and Northern Ireland it matters not one JOT how we Vote we always “GET THE GOVERNMENT YOU VOTE FOR” and if anyone thinks this is a fair Election System for Countries outside England then you should be ASHAMED.
Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana For Next Government.
You might have more than 1 reader up-voting your useful info if you took to editing and using byte-sized paragraph breaks as are the trained press and broadcast audience building (rather than scaring away) practices for purpose of building interest and news market share especially among those "consumers" who tend to disconnect themselves from "market forces." If ya don't want readers, sorry to have bothered pointing this out.
The writing is first-rate and it seems a shame to see it not reaching those looking for news alternatives to the corporate-captured fare.
Here on western side of the Atlantic pond non-profit news services are now taking significant audience and market share from the corporate-captured online sites and smartphone news feeds after a decade or so of Show Biz market boosting of mainstream media broadcast, cable & press presentation. Corporate underwritten US PUBLIC BROADCASTING is barely a substantive improvement over the Show Biz reductionism of the news that matters most especially to those without an investment portfolio to protect!
This disclosure helps differentiate non-profit from corporate-captured news sourcing:
"2025 · Democracy Now! is a 501 (c)3 non-profit news organization. We do not accept funding from advertising, underwriting or government agencies."
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Thanks for this great news, Ricky!
Interesting reading
It’s time for the young to have a vote without a manipulation of marching to the ancien tunes of left,centre, right.
It’s ideological nonsense as proven by experiences.
Amazed it isn't already streets ahead.....
Teamsport style allegiances are always in play. Teamsport mentality is at the heart of populism and the mainstay of all the parties.
The article - like most TV/mainstream-doped voters' geopolitical consciences - is predictably devoid of any thoughts of US-NATO-Israel's perpetual global bloodbaths, warmongering and genocidal slaughter - as in :
"It doesn't affect ME-ME-ME, my Mini-Me's aka kids or My Own Back Yard, right? Am I right or wot ? So it won't really affect who I vote for. Stands to bloody reason, don't it ?"
(Paul G)
That which occurs within the electoral system can not produce a different result from that which is possible within the electoral system
The tone is "finger on the pulse". The "we": is that you and me, Ricky, you and the rest of you ... not HM The King? But one thing comes over clear: you, and we with you, are very excited about what we're hearing and, when a new political party gets launched, there is more than enough for helping-hands to do.
But, as you say, anything that chimes with what sounds normal to a neoliberal, and therefore anyone else bar Green, is virtual dead in the water. Green and its leader must decide whether the nation's future lies in its name, its policies or its leader. There could be some valid must-do's left in the other traditional parties, such as "always use a coaster for iced gin and tonic", so do keep your eyes peeled.
In the graphic ("Why have people switched?"), do you happen to know: could people select various answers, or just one? They didn't ask me, but if it was just one, I'd still be swithering yet. Between them all.
I usually really enjoy your posts. But this time its made me really sad. This new party will simply destroy the Greens and split the actual left vote. Anyone who still votes for or supports the Labour party is NOT left wing or even centrist. This new party will simply enable Reform more. They should have joined the Greens and together they would have been able to make a difference but unfortunately they are so caught up in Westminster politics, their arrogance and that toxic Westminser bubble that they think this is going to work, but, just as it failed when Jeremy Corbyn was made leader of the Labour Party, it will fail now. The MSM , BBC etc will NEVER allow them to become anything. But if they had joined with the greens, an established party with good policies and brave young new leaders, that would have been different. It really is hopeless now.
this is a fledgling party, barely two weeks old, doesn't even have a name yet. these numbers are outstanding ! it will become the biggest party and people won't be frightened by what the bbc, crap newspapers, and other parties throw at it. we've learned a lot as a nation since jeremy corbyn's labour was sabataged from the inside. this time the good guys will be running the show. hope for the future at last !
Join the Greens? Really? An in-depth look at its most recent conference in Manchester
https://theleftlane2024.substack.com/p/the-greens-cull-continues-now-it
Does this party even exist? What is its name, what is its political programme, where is its website, does it have a headquarters, who are its leaders? It seems that this is placing the cart before the horse.
did you read the headline?
You seem to be promoting a political party that is not (yet) real. Given Mr Corbyn's foot-dragging for years in the vain hope that he would be allowed back into his beloved Labour party, it seems odd to place any hope in him.
I've met Jeremy, I can assure you that the Labour party is not beloved by him nor has he wanted to return.
I trust Jeremy Corbyn, I agree with his policies, and I absolutely support his new party.
Furthermore, attempting to save the Labour Party from becoming the horror-show it has now become —in order to save the country from this corrupt, authoritarian, far-right incarnation of "Labour" — was an entirely noble effort.
Yes, there are Corbyn nay-sayers. There always have been 5th columnists in left wing politics.
Corbyn is completely useless. Keep these naive optimists on their toes.
I want to be optimistic but his track record ain’t great. Also his career is largely over.
Zara though is staking her entire political career on this.
Nothing that happens in this sphere is of any interest to people who would like to see things change
I’m hopeful about Zara, Corbyn nice man hopefully has no operational responsibilities.