I couldn't agree more. Israel is offended by everything and ashamed by nothing. It took a long time, but now that they are getting a dose of accountability most of the world is cheering Iran on.
It is so immensely satisfying to see Israel finally getting the comeuppance that it so richly deserves.
Starmer is reiterating the shibboleth “Israel has a right to defend itself” while preparing the RAF to defend Israel! The best defence is not to attack someone bigger than you and trust your mates to back you up when they retaliate. In other words, don’t start a fight you can’t finish!
public reports indicate that the UK is providing concrete aid via its base on Cyprus. They have been refueling Israeli fighters, as the Germans have been doing in the air (known because their transponder was (accidentally?) turned on for a short time.
This is one of the ways the US has been able to say that it is not complicit in the attacks:
Because they are not playing 1 of the 3 traditional ways to support Israeli wars:
1. refueling aircraft to be able to fly to far away locations (like Iran) so the planes are able to return to their bases without running out of fuel.
2. help the inadequate Israeli Air Defense by providing a layer of inadequate US Air Defense when Iran fires hypersonics and an overwhelming number of drones, decoys and old missiles.
3. supply weapons and ammunition/bombs to Israel
The US may say it is not involved, but to quote the philosopher known as "Meatloaf"
So Israel has the capability to carry out surgical precision bombings against high-ranking military officials in Tehran itself, but not to eliminate Hamas leaders without massacring the entire civilian population of Gaza…
Incredible that there are millions of idiots who believe in Israel.
You're not a traitor, you're a true patriot like myself. Name 1 thing Starmer & his politician friends have done that is in British citizens interests in their foreign policies. Answering that question will say everything about who are the traitors in Britain. It's not me & you.
No person who has seen the horrors & atrocities inflicted on Palestinians by Israel & has condemned them & protested & signed petitions to stop this demanisation, starvation & murder could ever be called a traitor ❗️Those rights of self defence only works if all victims were armed, with guns & missiles & planes & the support of several countries supplying arms‼️
Palestine had nothing except Hamas! Plus Israel’s attacks were on Lebanon too, another very poor country colonised by the French as Palestine was colonised by the British & that’s when the horrors began! Zionis RUSSIAN JEWS were gifted Palestinian lands & Farms by Balfour in 1917, but this was not enough so the stole much more land but they shot THOUSANDS of Palestinians & displaced thousands forbidding them to ever return‼️
Since 1917 -2025 how many millions of Palestinians have been slaughtered , tortured, dehumanised & how many children were shot by these Russian Zionists❓❓❓❓
Everyone should stand up AGAINST THE GENOCIDES & HOLOCAUSTS otherwise we all become inhuman ❗️Thanks for being that Human👏👏
We DON'T WANT THEM IN AUSTRALIA, and already steps are in place to stop them! They've spread hate for decades, they're NOT wanted in a HUGE amount of countries e.g., Thailand, Malaysia, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Japan (started blocking them), Australia (visa processes have changed, and we're pushing blocks) etc., etc., etc. Unless you have no idea what Israelis are you must understand they're disgusting human beings and they're the most HATED state in the world! Don't reply stating you know "...good Israelis...", it makes you look extremely stupid on history, their education, their military, their victim mentality, Zionism and their military service.
I agree with you, I hate to see suffering and death, but I do have the satisfaction of karma and seeing the bully gets his butt kicked. Nobody likes a bully, and no one likes to see weak and defenseless people get slaughtered. As always, the psychopathic top brass in the apartheid state of Israel will lead their people into misery and destruction, yet 82% of Israelis are behind this psychopathic government, so they too will suffer the consequences of their war and their genocide.
The American military will continue to profit from all wars, and the American politicians will secretly support Israel because they have been paid to do so, or they are being blackmailed into supporting this apartheid state.
Israel knows that the American government will come to their aid; that’s why they started this war. They need the most powerful Congressional military-industrial complex to aid them in their insanity.
America and Israel are the same. America has been supporting Israel since its inception.
When countries invest all or the majority of their resources into weapons of mass destruction, we will continue to see nothing but wars and rumors of wars. This is where the enemies of life come into play.. All we can do is pray and speak out against these war mongers.
If ever anyone deserved this & helluva lot more on top it's these. Zionist psychopaths. Those in the West who support them should be tried for committing war crimes.
Iran has ten times the population of Israel and it’s a huge country. Israelis are all crammed into that little spot. They’re a much easier target. If shit got real I think Iran, with the backing of Russia maybe even, could wipe out Israel. The problem for Israel is they will be the whipping boy. Even if the US lends a hand the retaliation from Iran will directed solely at Israel. It’s a bad idea for the Jews to do this.
We now know why Israel was attacking hospitals, schools and public places... they have hidden THEIR killing systems in public facilities. This is another example of hypocritical people accusing others of doing EXACTLY what they are doing. This is more common than breathing in corrupt cultures. Because Zionists REFUSE to integrate into world cultures, they are a threat. Why is it that every culture they approach rejects their Zionist superiority complex?
It looks like the Zionist bullies are making the playground mistake of trying to beat up a bigger, tougher kid and now they are the ones getting their faces shoved in the dog shit. I understand that this is a genuinely serious situation, but I think the analogy is still applicable.
Very interesting analysis. Your hopes are my hopes. Your gloats are my gloats.
I took a somewhat more sarcastic view last night, after reading an equally frightening quote from a missile victim in Tel Aviv: "The Bible says if someone comes to kill you, you must kill them first." I read it, I didn't hear it, so I cannot judge the earnest in which it was said. But I've heard rabbis preach hatred about Arabs and Persians, so I guess the 18-year-old who said this probably heard it in school.
It’s worse. It’s not only Arabs and Persians, it’s all who disagree with the Zionists - the Amalek.
The “modern democracy” with “the most moral army” and 200 nuclear warheads that never signed any nuclear treaties and never been inspected by International Atomic Agency, teaching their youth the ideas from ancient book of Tora how to treat Amalek: kill all of them, kill their women and babies, kill their cattle. No surprise that the Palestinian toddlers are being snipped in Gaza.
Look, Galina. There is a tetchiness to your reply, as if I'm some kind of ignoramus. I'm actually agreeing with you, but I cannot substantiate my agreement with things that I have not heard. First, let's decide who we, you and I, DISagree with. Then, we can inform each other. There are ways to say things that don't make you look like a monopolist on insight.
I don’t feel that I am monopolizing the insight. I just shared a shocking discovery of mine that the roots of Zionism came from the ancient religious texts that promised the land inhibited by other peoples to the Jews (after 1000 years of absence.) Obviously, I didn’t read Tora. But I despise any claims to superiority by any nation.
There is a strong personal interest. I am starting to wonder if the Holocaust survivors in my family did not care much about Jewishness and never used “goym” towards anyone because of that. But it’s too late to ask.
Yes, Zionism. What is Zionism? Well, when we start to look at it, we think that it's a political idea that grew in the late 19th century and found favour with certain world powers who saw the merits in proposing it as a solution to a problem. I think it's worth remembering that there was a problem: the Jewish populations in Russia, particularly, lived in penury, were persecuted, murdered (much of what is portrayed in "Fiddler On The Roof" is not inaccurate). I wasn't there but I imagine that it's perhaps akin to the sense we have, now, of what measures will serve as justice for the people of Palestine: they now are the ones with no homeland, and we are the outsiders who are militating for them to have one.
But Zionism has grown into something beyond a political goal and, on one angle, it needed to become what it now is in order to become anything. In other words, there is an argument that Zionism would have remained nothing more than an idea discussed in smoky drawing rooms in London, or even a bland statement in a government declaration, had it not been for something akin to the Wizard of Oz. The basic theme running through that story is that "if you believe in something hard enough, you can achieve it." Zionism, therefore, mutated over time, from a political goal into a belief system. Last weekend, I wrote the referenced article, which you're welcome to read, which is a tongue-in-cheek commentary on something a young Israeli was quoted as saying in The Guardian: it says in the Bible that we must kill those who want to kill us. Clearly, and without even needing to check, the Bible says no such thing. But, whether Elia Digma knows it says no such thing is another question. What matters is not what the Bible says, but what he believes the Bible says.
Zionism sweeps all before it. It grants justification for any measure deemed necessary to achieve its goal. And the measures that have been taken: of bombing Palestine, of taking control of large sections of American politics, of controlling the narrative in US business and Hollywood, of weaponising the Holocaust, none of which particularly stands to reason, are justified because they all lead to the establishment of Jewish hegemony (a word that's becoming a bit tired but do we have another?) in the Holy Land. Anything and everything is justified in achieving that goal, and Zionism has thereby become a sort of sociopathy: nothing else matters.
The current developments with Iran are merely a stepping stone along that path. October 7 set a series of reactions in motion that follow almost as night does from day, and no amount of failure to achieve victory on the part of the Israelis will detract them from the belief, deeply felt belief, that victory is what they have achieved. In Gaza, in the West Bank, in Damascus, in Tehran, in Kurdistan, in Syria generally, in Lebanon. (One might ponder where they will stop: they do have their sights on Egypt.) The loss of life in Gaza is of no consequence to them. Like the taking of Point du Hoc on D-Day by the Texas Rangers: they knew that the whole campaign would have been in vain if they failed to take that bastion of German defence. They had no choice. It made no difference how many Germans had to die, nor how many Americans. Point du Hoc had to be taken, or all was in vain (it's depicted at the start of Saving Private Ryan). That is the same determination that Israel now has. There will be no peace, because you cannot reason with religious fervour of that intensity, and it is not established just in the Israeli leadership, but passim, throughout its entire society. The analogy is more the reverse of Point du Hoc: the Germans want to break out from their stronghold and take over the entire surrounding landscape.
I can't say if the views of Zionists towards gentiles are reflected in the attitudes of Nazis towards Jews. I wonder if Nazis ever believed in anything except "method". But, like you, I wasn't there, and it's an event of the past. Our task is more, if you will, to understand our present and, what's more, to do what we can to right its wrongs in accordance with our own ... belief.
I take it Iran doesn’t have the same right to defend herself like Israel does? Ever since Russia invaded Ukraine, violence all around the world has escalated, and it scares me to death. It reminds me somewhat of the scene in Kingsman, where all the church goers erupt into violence and ends with everyone dead. I was scared enough during the pandemic when it appeared the UK and US governments just wanted to kill us all (or at least let the virus do its thing so we could work and keep the economy going) and Trump and Johnson were in charge. I felt much safer with Biden (although his one failing was, of course, supporting Israel) but even now, with Trump and Starmer (with Farage waiting in the wings) we know they don’t care about us and their gods are money and power.
I fear that things have been far more longstanding, complex and darker than your assessments. For example, Biden, and the Dems for that matter, certainly have more than 'one failing'.
We in the West can no longer deny feeling the shackles around our ankles, so more of us eventually recognise our common danger.
Thank you. I am well aware that many western governments have more than one flaw, Democrats included. I didn’t expand on that point mainly for brevity. I also know it has taken at least 50 years to get to where we are now, so it appears that the conditions that have enabled this terrifying reality have been meticulously planned, but then allowed to run its course.
I refuse to lose hope though. That doesn’t mean I am an eternal optimist, but I believe there are more good people in the world than there are bad. The No Kings demos yesterday are a reason to be hopeful.
I'm the same. Schadenfreude writ large. I can't help but think of alternate lyrics to the old nursery rhyme, London Bridge is Falling Down. - Tel Aviv is burning down! Burning down! Burning down! Tel Aviv is burning down! Bye bye Bibi!
Israel is getting what it has long deserved, and needs more of it.
I couldn't agree more. Israel is offended by everything and ashamed by nothing. It took a long time, but now that they are getting a dose of accountability most of the world is cheering Iran on.
It is so immensely satisfying to see Israel finally getting the comeuppance that it so richly deserves.
Totally agree.
Also: Aid trucks should be taking this opportunity to ram through Israel's barricades, into Gaza.
agreed
Starmer is reiterating the shibboleth “Israel has a right to defend itself” while preparing the RAF to defend Israel! The best defence is not to attack someone bigger than you and trust your mates to back you up when they retaliate. In other words, don’t start a fight you can’t finish!
Israel has the right to defeat itself. 😂
Noice one
Starmer has that vapid look in his eyes that one usually finds on a cow.
public reports indicate that the UK is providing concrete aid via its base on Cyprus. They have been refueling Israeli fighters, as the Germans have been doing in the air (known because their transponder was (accidentally?) turned on for a short time.
This is one of the ways the US has been able to say that it is not complicit in the attacks:
Because they are not playing 1 of the 3 traditional ways to support Israeli wars:
1. refueling aircraft to be able to fly to far away locations (like Iran) so the planes are able to return to their bases without running out of fuel.
2. help the inadequate Israeli Air Defense by providing a layer of inadequate US Air Defense when Iran fires hypersonics and an overwhelming number of drones, decoys and old missiles.
3. supply weapons and ammunition/bombs to Israel
The US may say it is not involved, but to quote the philosopher known as "Meatloaf"
"Two out of three ain't bad."
Well said Mike
I say, let "Ir" and "Iz" work it out amongst themselves.
So Israel has the capability to carry out surgical precision bombings against high-ranking military officials in Tehran itself, but not to eliminate Hamas leaders without massacring the entire civilian population of Gaza…
Incredible that there are millions of idiots who believe in Israel.
It seems I am a traitor. I do not side with my own country on this. Fuck you, Starmer - if you want to die for Israel, dont take us with you
You're not a traitor, you're a true patriot like myself. Name 1 thing Starmer & his politician friends have done that is in British citizens interests in their foreign policies. Answering that question will say everything about who are the traitors in Britain. It's not me & you.
No person who has seen the horrors & atrocities inflicted on Palestinians by Israel & has condemned them & protested & signed petitions to stop this demanisation, starvation & murder could ever be called a traitor ❗️Those rights of self defence only works if all victims were armed, with guns & missiles & planes & the support of several countries supplying arms‼️
Palestine had nothing except Hamas! Plus Israel’s attacks were on Lebanon too, another very poor country colonised by the French as Palestine was colonised by the British & that’s when the horrors began! Zionis RUSSIAN JEWS were gifted Palestinian lands & Farms by Balfour in 1917, but this was not enough so the stole much more land but they shot THOUSANDS of Palestinians & displaced thousands forbidding them to ever return‼️
Since 1917 -2025 how many millions of Palestinians have been slaughtered , tortured, dehumanised & how many children were shot by these Russian Zionists❓❓❓❓
Everyone should stand up AGAINST THE GENOCIDES & HOLOCAUSTS otherwise we all become inhuman ❗️Thanks for being that Human👏👏
Hopefully, Israelis, who are all genocidaires, will not be able to leave, as airports are shut down.
I do not want these dual citizen monsters returning to America.
We also don't want them in Britain or Australia, let them be enclosed in Israel, let them suffocate in the walls they've built up! #FreePalestine
We can take them in Australia.
But they can stop the hate ...
We DON'T WANT THEM IN AUSTRALIA, and already steps are in place to stop them! They've spread hate for decades, they're NOT wanted in a HUGE amount of countries e.g., Thailand, Malaysia, Maldives, Sri Lanka, Japan (started blocking them), Australia (visa processes have changed, and we're pushing blocks) etc., etc., etc. Unless you have no idea what Israelis are you must understand they're disgusting human beings and they're the most HATED state in the world! Don't reply stating you know "...good Israelis...", it makes you look extremely stupid on history, their education, their military, their victim mentality, Zionism and their military service.
THE WORLD HATES THEM!
America already has enough monsters of its own to deal with.
Jordanian border.
Israel, IMO, fully expects the US and UK to step in and save them.
If the US steps in, it will be for its own interests and they will throw Israel into the blast crater in a heartbeat.
I agree with you, I hate to see suffering and death, but I do have the satisfaction of karma and seeing the bully gets his butt kicked. Nobody likes a bully, and no one likes to see weak and defenseless people get slaughtered. As always, the psychopathic top brass in the apartheid state of Israel will lead their people into misery and destruction, yet 82% of Israelis are behind this psychopathic government, so they too will suffer the consequences of their war and their genocide.
The American military will continue to profit from all wars, and the American politicians will secretly support Israel because they have been paid to do so, or they are being blackmailed into supporting this apartheid state.
Israel knows that the American government will come to their aid; that’s why they started this war. They need the most powerful Congressional military-industrial complex to aid them in their insanity.
America and Israel are the same. America has been supporting Israel since its inception.
When countries invest all or the majority of their resources into weapons of mass destruction, we will continue to see nothing but wars and rumors of wars. This is where the enemies of life come into play.. All we can do is pray and speak out against these war mongers.
If ever anyone deserved this & helluva lot more on top it's these. Zionist psychopaths. Those in the West who support them should be tried for committing war crimes.
Iran has ten times the population of Israel and it’s a huge country. Israelis are all crammed into that little spot. They’re a much easier target. If shit got real I think Iran, with the backing of Russia maybe even, could wipe out Israel. The problem for Israel is they will be the whipping boy. Even if the US lends a hand the retaliation from Iran will directed solely at Israel. It’s a bad idea for the Jews to do this.
15,000 apparently
We now know why Israel was attacking hospitals, schools and public places... they have hidden THEIR killing systems in public facilities. This is another example of hypocritical people accusing others of doing EXACTLY what they are doing. This is more common than breathing in corrupt cultures. Because Zionists REFUSE to integrate into world cultures, they are a threat. Why is it that every culture they approach rejects their Zionist superiority complex?
Like all right-wing fascists, every accusation is a confession.
It's fucking insane how 110% accurate that has been my entire life.
It looks like the Zionist bullies are making the playground mistake of trying to beat up a bigger, tougher kid and now they are the ones getting their faces shoved in the dog shit. I understand that this is a genuinely serious situation, but I think the analogy is still applicable.
I agree, Ricky. Israel has to be stopped. I'm so sick of their aggression, and the dishonesty and violence of the USA and its allies.
Very interesting analysis. Your hopes are my hopes. Your gloats are my gloats.
I took a somewhat more sarcastic view last night, after reading an equally frightening quote from a missile victim in Tel Aviv: "The Bible says if someone comes to kill you, you must kill them first." I read it, I didn't hear it, so I cannot judge the earnest in which it was said. But I've heard rabbis preach hatred about Arabs and Persians, so I guess the 18-year-old who said this probably heard it in school.
https://endlesschain.substack.com/p/the-bible-says-if-someone-comes-to
It’s worse. It’s not only Arabs and Persians, it’s all who disagree with the Zionists - the Amalek.
The “modern democracy” with “the most moral army” and 200 nuclear warheads that never signed any nuclear treaties and never been inspected by International Atomic Agency, teaching their youth the ideas from ancient book of Tora how to treat Amalek: kill all of them, kill their women and babies, kill their cattle. No surprise that the Palestinian toddlers are being snipped in Gaza.
Look, Galina. There is a tetchiness to your reply, as if I'm some kind of ignoramus. I'm actually agreeing with you, but I cannot substantiate my agreement with things that I have not heard. First, let's decide who we, you and I, DISagree with. Then, we can inform each other. There are ways to say things that don't make you look like a monopolist on insight.
I don’t feel that I am monopolizing the insight. I just shared a shocking discovery of mine that the roots of Zionism came from the ancient religious texts that promised the land inhibited by other peoples to the Jews (after 1000 years of absence.) Obviously, I didn’t read Tora. But I despise any claims to superiority by any nation.
There is a strong personal interest. I am starting to wonder if the Holocaust survivors in my family did not care much about Jewishness and never used “goym” towards anyone because of that. But it’s too late to ask.
You are welcome to disagree.
Yes, Zionism. What is Zionism? Well, when we start to look at it, we think that it's a political idea that grew in the late 19th century and found favour with certain world powers who saw the merits in proposing it as a solution to a problem. I think it's worth remembering that there was a problem: the Jewish populations in Russia, particularly, lived in penury, were persecuted, murdered (much of what is portrayed in "Fiddler On The Roof" is not inaccurate). I wasn't there but I imagine that it's perhaps akin to the sense we have, now, of what measures will serve as justice for the people of Palestine: they now are the ones with no homeland, and we are the outsiders who are militating for them to have one.
But Zionism has grown into something beyond a political goal and, on one angle, it needed to become what it now is in order to become anything. In other words, there is an argument that Zionism would have remained nothing more than an idea discussed in smoky drawing rooms in London, or even a bland statement in a government declaration, had it not been for something akin to the Wizard of Oz. The basic theme running through that story is that "if you believe in something hard enough, you can achieve it." Zionism, therefore, mutated over time, from a political goal into a belief system. Last weekend, I wrote the referenced article, which you're welcome to read, which is a tongue-in-cheek commentary on something a young Israeli was quoted as saying in The Guardian: it says in the Bible that we must kill those who want to kill us. Clearly, and without even needing to check, the Bible says no such thing. But, whether Elia Digma knows it says no such thing is another question. What matters is not what the Bible says, but what he believes the Bible says.
Zionism sweeps all before it. It grants justification for any measure deemed necessary to achieve its goal. And the measures that have been taken: of bombing Palestine, of taking control of large sections of American politics, of controlling the narrative in US business and Hollywood, of weaponising the Holocaust, none of which particularly stands to reason, are justified because they all lead to the establishment of Jewish hegemony (a word that's becoming a bit tired but do we have another?) in the Holy Land. Anything and everything is justified in achieving that goal, and Zionism has thereby become a sort of sociopathy: nothing else matters.
The current developments with Iran are merely a stepping stone along that path. October 7 set a series of reactions in motion that follow almost as night does from day, and no amount of failure to achieve victory on the part of the Israelis will detract them from the belief, deeply felt belief, that victory is what they have achieved. In Gaza, in the West Bank, in Damascus, in Tehran, in Kurdistan, in Syria generally, in Lebanon. (One might ponder where they will stop: they do have their sights on Egypt.) The loss of life in Gaza is of no consequence to them. Like the taking of Point du Hoc on D-Day by the Texas Rangers: they knew that the whole campaign would have been in vain if they failed to take that bastion of German defence. They had no choice. It made no difference how many Germans had to die, nor how many Americans. Point du Hoc had to be taken, or all was in vain (it's depicted at the start of Saving Private Ryan). That is the same determination that Israel now has. There will be no peace, because you cannot reason with religious fervour of that intensity, and it is not established just in the Israeli leadership, but passim, throughout its entire society. The analogy is more the reverse of Point du Hoc: the Germans want to break out from their stronghold and take over the entire surrounding landscape.
I can't say if the views of Zionists towards gentiles are reflected in the attitudes of Nazis towards Jews. I wonder if Nazis ever believed in anything except "method". But, like you, I wasn't there, and it's an event of the past. Our task is more, if you will, to understand our present and, what's more, to do what we can to right its wrongs in accordance with our own ... belief.
I'm sorry if I was a bit gruff.
Talmud is frightening ...
Frighteningly long.
I take it Iran doesn’t have the same right to defend herself like Israel does? Ever since Russia invaded Ukraine, violence all around the world has escalated, and it scares me to death. It reminds me somewhat of the scene in Kingsman, where all the church goers erupt into violence and ends with everyone dead. I was scared enough during the pandemic when it appeared the UK and US governments just wanted to kill us all (or at least let the virus do its thing so we could work and keep the economy going) and Trump and Johnson were in charge. I felt much safer with Biden (although his one failing was, of course, supporting Israel) but even now, with Trump and Starmer (with Farage waiting in the wings) we know they don’t care about us and their gods are money and power.
I fear that things have been far more longstanding, complex and darker than your assessments. For example, Biden, and the Dems for that matter, certainly have more than 'one failing'.
We in the West can no longer deny feeling the shackles around our ankles, so more of us eventually recognise our common danger.
Thank you. I am well aware that many western governments have more than one flaw, Democrats included. I didn’t expand on that point mainly for brevity. I also know it has taken at least 50 years to get to where we are now, so it appears that the conditions that have enabled this terrifying reality have been meticulously planned, but then allowed to run its course.
I refuse to lose hope though. That doesn’t mean I am an eternal optimist, but I believe there are more good people in the world than there are bad. The No Kings demos yesterday are a reason to be hopeful.
somehow I think the goal is not so much to win the war as to continue the war(s)
I'm the same. Schadenfreude writ large. I can't help but think of alternate lyrics to the old nursery rhyme, London Bridge is Falling Down. - Tel Aviv is burning down! Burning down! Burning down! Tel Aviv is burning down! Bye bye Bibi!