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Sol Sön's avatar

Time to start to sanction the US for its complicity in the Holocaust in Gaza, and for its attacks on humanity and those representing it.

BDS US and israel and all their partners in crime till their compliance to international law.

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Graham Vincent's avatar

On it.

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Rebecca Turner's avatar

How would anyone sanction the entire USA?

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Sol Sön's avatar

Just like you bds any other criminal entity, you stop buying or selling their products.

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Davina's avatar

Do not holiday in the US don't pay for your children to attend their Universities, don't subscribe to American newspapers/media. Use your brains and find out what can be done.

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Graham Vincent's avatar

I am disturbed by the fact that Substack of San Francisco has an interest in my being here. Just by writing these words, I am helping a US tech bro, and somewhere an AI colossus is scraping these very words.

Back when people knew about Dick Turpin, they still ventured onto the Great North Road. They had little choice and, when he told them to choose between their money and their lives, they chose their lives. But Dick Turpin was apprehended one day, and hanged for his crimes. That's the only hope we can comfort ourselves with. Because he'd never have been hanged if everyone he robbed had been killed.

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Jo Waller's avatar

It's not the 'USA' who is responsible, it's the US interests in fossil fuels, animal ag, pharma, tech, media and arms. So we must also sanction their vassals ie the UK, Saudi etc etc. We must stop buying oil, animal products and pharma.

The latter 2 are doable.

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Sol Sön's avatar

The US is the main providers if weapons to a self proclaimed Apartheid wannabe state run by a war criminal wanted for warcrimes including the ones of torture, murder and the use of starvation as weapon of war, a rogue state which continues to attack and sanction officers and judges of the International Courts, and which should be sanctioned by the entire world for its Genocidal intent to destroy a people to replace it with an other.

And this is what I and anyone who can see what is going on and where their money are ending up can do.

I personally have since long started to boycott also German, British and Hungarian products and brands, and if just like I do millions are also doing it worldwide, this is causing a chain reaction something good from it will have to happen before it will stop.

We “people of consciousness” chose were are money goes.

Here something to put it in a more visual form.

You have two fires burning, and now you know that one of the fires burning is burning plastic and that the fumes are making you sick, wile the other which is burning only wood was keeping you warm with out poisoning you.

All we need to do is to stop feeding the toxic fire to make it die out.

People in the US seems to have completely lost it.

Beside your new concentration camp alligator Alcatraz, records of weather modification operations connected with floods which are destroying the life of thousands, I just saw images of dozens of army jeeps going through some city, police and army marching marching through playgrounds and of masked rednecks dressed in army gear kidnapping people from the streets of city centers across the US of A.

Something is totally wrong about the US Government and this time it has gone too far.

If you are a driver you can also choose were to buy your gasoline or diesel.

Us today a couple of days ago, warning, strong images.

https://substack.com/@transcendent50501/note/c-133452633

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Jo Waller's avatar

Oh dear. Weather modification letting climate change (and fossil fuel and animal ag) of the hook.

I fear you have fallen for the propaganda.

It's not the US or the US government, it's the US based Western patriarchy. that's the problem They will not care if you boycott US or British made products- we've off-shored it all to China anyway.

They see their hegemony and primacy threaten by Chinese 'peasants' and they're lashing out. They will of course lose, with or without you boycotts. But they're going do a lot of damage, not least accelerate the climate crisis as they go down.

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Sol Sön's avatar

You lost me.

We are discussing Palestine and US sanctions on UN officials, not about climate change or about its geo engineering operations to brain wash people into believe in it,

BDS is the moral duty of anyone with a consciousness.

Freedom and peace for the Palestinian people.

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Rebecca Turner's avatar

I suspect that one is close to impossible, given the enormous range and depth of US products and services used by everyone on the planet. For example, your browser, its supporting services (Amazon Web Services which is behind most of the World Wide Web), Google, YouTube, Microsoft, Apple...

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Sol Sön's avatar

Aside from Substack I don’t use any of them.

If you really need something from someone you try to boycott buy used stuff. When we stop buying their products and choosing other ones to replace them, we inflict a physical blow to their economy.

We are the power we been looking for, conscious action is what sets the table straight, no more paying for wars means stop giving money to those feeding them.

It is that simple, we all have the power to do and act according to logic and if we want something to happen we must all be participating to it.

About the political arena, it is composed by sharks which are dying to eat each other and to take each other’s place.

The only thing which ever moves them from their sits, is money.

This is why the best way to act for to force the fall of a government is by general strikes, as they force governments to loose billions and allows the next set of sharks to replace them.

BDS is giving you the power to act as judge, this is why is the most feared form of protest by criminal governments.

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Rebecca Turner's avatar

General strikes are vastly more effective than poorly-organised individual actions such as personal boycotts that are unnoticed by the subjects. Perhaps that is why trade unions and their federations - part of the capitalist economy - work hard to prevent such strike actions. See the World Socialist Web Site for a political movement that informs revolutionary action by workers.

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Sol Sön's avatar

BDS is true power at the tip of your fingers. use it.

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Graham Vincent's avatar

In Palestine, they have no option to choose whether to buy American or not.

The rest of us have that choice. Use it wisely.

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Gladwyn d'Souza's avatar

Exactly BDS the primary criminal entity, the US of Apartheid, by not buying it selling their products, like all countries had to do during the pandemic when supply chains stalled.

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Neil Procter's avatar

Boycott anything and everything American. On a personal individual level it’s not impossible, it just takes a bit of determination and belief. Rather than being lazy and thinking that you can’t do anything, put your money where your mouth is and consistently take small actions, after all every journey begins with a single step etc

When the Boycott grows the sanctions follow, because if there’s one thing the Military Industrial Complex obeys it’s money.

Of course if your concern is that this won’t happen overnight then you’re right, it won’t. However, it may happen quicker than your catastrophising implies. To begin with you need to believe and be in it for the long haul.

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Ron Stockton's avatar

Starmer, Trump, Netanyahu, and almost all western world leaders think “1984” is an instruction manual. It would be great if a leader in Canada or the EU had the backbone to nominate Francesca Albanese for the Nobel Peace Prize.

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Jazzme's avatar

Boycott the companies on Francisca list and if you own their stock: divest...I did.

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Graham Vincent's avatar

How to avoid Microsoft, Apple, Google and all the other tech companies?

Well, there are ways to limit your discourse with them.

- Apple: I already have Apple computers, but I went Android when my iPhone went phut. Chinese. Cost 60 euros. I use it to telephone. No apps. I never use geolocation, unless I'm lost. I ask people the way mostly, and have wonderful interactions with people who are always ready to help someone who's lost his way.

- As an Apple user, I have free access to Pages. So I binned MS Word. You can download Libra Software that replicates Word almost exactly. Pages converts Word .doc documents easily, and you can easily re-export to Word.

- Google is embedded into Android, but I download my pictures and then wipe them. Google gets very little info out of me. I search with DuckDuckGo, which until now has always been reliable, if the results are sometimes sketchy (in the old sense).

- I don't have Facebook, Instagram or any other social media account (Flickr I have, to see someone's photos). I stay in touch with e-mail, with Signal and with Telegram. In WhatsApp, I'm careful what I write - we should really all learn cockney slang so as to give AI a bum steer.

You cannot "eliminate" the US tech bros from your life. But you can "mitigate it" quite a lot. After being invented by an Englishman, the Internet has been hijacked by American profiteers - like things always are. A Norwegian discovered atomic fusion, a Hungarian warned Einstein the Germans were close to using it, the Americans stopped them, and then used it themselves for the self same purpose. Why are they so damned predictable, and why are we so gullible?

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salahuddin c's avatar

The US ..not just the billionaires and corrupt political "elite/symbolic rulers" but the great unwashed majority who accept a system rotten with corruption and stupidity...are hell bent on destroying every common sense decency for monetary gain and, along with Israel, psychotic ideas of "God" given exceptionalism.

Albanese is a remarkable and inspirational woman and leader. She's 100% right about the appalling horror of Genocide in Palestine:her infantile critics 100% wrong. A sad and ugly world.

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Yvette Worrall's avatar

Edward Lear and Lewis Caroll would have had a creative field day with this material.

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Graham Vincent's avatar

They might well have written of a world in which there was no greed, no wanton killing, no cruelty and no oppression. And we'd have read it and scratched our heads in wonderment, that such a world could ever exist.

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Yvette Worrall's avatar

A so much more naive and younger me was always puzzled by that staccato irrationality of The Red Queen. Now I recognize her everywhere.

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Graham Vincent's avatar

Lewis Carroll, Jean Cocteau, M. C. Escher all recognised a strange, esoteric truth, that a mirror is an entrance to the Underworld.

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Ohio Barbarian's avatar

You don't understand. The Empire must have its sanctions; they've become traditional, you see. If they withdraw a couple of them they have to sanction SOMEBODY else. Who that somebody is depends on whatever is convenient or, even better, will generate more campaign contributions, at the time.

The grift must flow. Always.

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

It's time to lock up the American grifters or march them off to the guillotines...

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Karen's avatar

A case of "Do as we say and Not as we do"

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The Revolution Continues's avatar

"Either the US believes in international law and due process or it doesn't, and it is making it loud and clear it doesn't. "

Spot on. In the US, legal due process has been thrown out like stale bread into the compost pile of history. What a joke, eh? A so-called "democracy" that can't even protect its own people's right to free speech and is actively abusing a UN official just doing her job. Time for a massive boycott of American goods and services. Don't travel to the US for holidays or work. Write letters to corporations that do business in the US and tell them that you'll boycott them if they do business with American companies. That should get somebody's attention in the White House when their lobbyists' checks stop coming in...

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Stu's avatar

It shows the contempt they always had for the organisation.

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Keith Brighouse's avatar

The Empire must have its childish tantrums and the sense of entitlement of its offices, confirms the inherent corruption of the Empire.

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Graham Vincent's avatar

When I was a youngster in my father's car once, he needed petrol, and he pulled into a petrol station, then suddenly accelerated back out of it. The brand was "Nafta". "Russians. I don't buy Russian petrol," he said (censored version).

My father was anti-Russian, and you can approve of that or disapprove of that. But he would not support a nation he himself disapproved of (he castigated the Moscow Olympics after the invasion of Afghanistan).

Whether he achieved his political goal depends on how you define "political goal". He didn't act in order to cause the collapse of the Soviet economy, for that would have been a political goal outside his abilities. But he achieved his own political goal by reconciling his acts with what he believed in.

Do you know what you believe in? And are you prepared to change your beliefs if you come to see they were wrong?

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Zinenataza's avatar

Ok - here’s an idea… How about we each get a batch of ‘Free Palestine’ stickers and (surreptitiously) plaster them on bus stops, supermarket trolleys, the underground, locker doors, cash machines… etc etc…

Is this ridiculous? My daughter living in a small Wiltshire village was much cheered by one on her local bus shelter recently. Meanwhile all the Ukraine flags on display everywhere last year have all been hauled in.

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Lindsey Louther's avatar

Speaking for myself, I am far beyond caring if anyone labels me an antisemite. If vocalising the truth about Israelis, Zionists and Jews under circumstances where they have patently failed humanity makes me an antisemite, then I am proud to be one. The word is a convenient whip in the mouth of every Jewish person that feels the need to invoke the word to stifle criticism and to silence their detractors. I refuse to be flagellated and silenced by anyone that commits a genocide, their enablers and sycophants.

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Dean's avatar

I couldn't agree more...

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Liz Thompson's avatar

Umm, here we go round the mulberry bush?

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Lindsey Louther's avatar

Speaking for myself, I am far beyond caring if anyone labels me an antisemite. If vocalising the truth about Israelis, Zionists and Jews under circumstances where they have patently failed humanity makes me an antisemite, then I am proud to be one. The word is a convenient whip in the mouth of every Jewish person that feels the need to invoke the word to stifle criticism and to silence their detractors. I refuse to be flagellated and silenced by anyone that commits a genocide, their enablers and sycophants.

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